# Canonical citations for art and pyDelphin **URL:** \ **Category:** PyDelphin Tools\ **Tags:** ace\ **Created:** [January 30, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249 "2019-01-30T00:54:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ebender](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@ebender](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/ebender)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/1 "2019-01-30T00:54:39Z")
Dear all but especially @sweaglesw and @goodmami, Are there canonical citations for art and pyDelphin, either publications or specific websites to point to? (Asking for an author of a handbook paper…) Thanks! Emily ---
**Author:** ![goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/goodmami)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/2 "2019-02-07T13:58:47Z")
For PyDelphin there is not. PyDelphin has been partially described by the following: - Ann A. Copestake, Guy Emerson, Michael Wayne Goodman, Matic Horvat, Alexander Kuhnle, and Ewa Muszynska. _Resources for building applications with Dependency Minimal Recursion Semantics_. Proceedings of the Tenth International Conference on Language Resources and Evaluation (LREC 2016). - Michael Wayne Goodman. _Semantic Operations for Transfer-based Machine Translation_. PhD Dissertation, University of Washington. 2018. And the GitHub URL is fairly stable so it is sometimes used in place of citations: [https://github.com/delph-in/pydelphin](https://github.com/delph-in/pydelphin) If a canonical citation is desired I can submit it to [JOSS](https://joss.theoj.org/) or something similar, perhaps with the v1.0.0 release, but that may take a few months. Do note that the current spelling capitalizes the initial P in PyDelphin; the initial lower-case thing was awkward, particularly at the beginning of sentences. ---
**Author:** ![ebender](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@ebender](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/ebender)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/3 "2019-02-07T14:47:35Z")
Thanks, Mike! Generally speaking, I think it would be beneficial to you to have a canonical citation for this widely-used toolset that you spearheaded, so I would encourage you to make that submission to JOSS. In the meantime, do you have a preference among the three options you listed? ---
**Author:** ![arademaker](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/user_avatar/delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/arademaker/32/45_2.png) [@arademaker](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/arademaker)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/4 "2019-02-07T15:06:36Z")
I believe having a canonical reference is always good. But is JOOS a good target? ---
**Author:** ![goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/goodmami)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/5 "2019-02-12T06:06:41Z")
Ok I’ll look into a JOSS submission, although I’d also like to submit to [NLP-OSS](https://nlposs.github.io/) if there’s a second workshop, as that seems like an appropriate venue. > [@ebender](#): > > do you have a preference among the three options you listed? If it’s about DMRS (conversion, modeling, manipulation, etc.), as well as SEM-I and MRS support, then my dissertation has more detail than the LREC paper, so I prefer that one in general. If it’s about the [incr tsdb()], TDL, REPP, TSQL, VPM, [incr tsdb()] derivations, ACE or HTTP interfaces, or YY token lattice support, then I don’t think any publication is particularly relevant, and the GitHub URL would suffice. > [@arademaker](#): > > is FOOS a good target? Sorry, I don’t know what FOOS is and internet searches are not telling me anything helpful. Is it a software-focused journal like JOSS? ---
**Author:** ![arademaker](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/user_avatar/delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/arademaker/32/45_2.png) [@arademaker](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/arademaker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/6 "2019-02-12T12:43:25Z")
Sorry, my mistake, I edited the comment. I was trying to ask about JOSS. I haven’t heard about it before. I wonder if the journal has a good reputation. ---
**Author:** ![goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@goodmami](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/u/goodmami)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://delphinqa.ling.washington.edu/t/canonical-citations-for-art-and-pydelphin/249/7 "2019-02-12T13:11:43Z")
JOSS is a journal for software projects. They have some requirements about software being well documented and they are generally about giving a citable “publication” to software projects that aren’t themselves some scientific contribution. It is affiliated with the Open Source Initiative and are sponsored by NumFocus, both of which are reputable organizations I think. You can read more about it here: [https://joss.theoj.org/about](https://joss.theoj.org/about)